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    Hi Francesco, <br>
    thanks for producing the new plots and clarifying the meaning of the
    plots,<br>
    <br>
    I tested the new satellite code on this r-band image: it seems that
    the satellite track is now detected and removed. We currently
    reprocessing this field (as well as the g and u band). This
    particular satellite is relatively narrow and bright. We are
    wondering how such plots look if a faint&nbsp; (narrow or broad)
    non-detected satellite track is visible in the fov. <br>
    <br>
    We should discuss the satellite detection issue probably this
    afternoon at the telecon.<br>
    <br>
    And of course also the optimum set of parameters MIN_AREA and
    DETECT_THRESH which are directly related to completeness and
    spurious objects. <br>
    <br>
    GS<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 02/06/2013 10:12 AM, Francesco La Barbera wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOnmKXdpM+bSPpHC+f5Q_mXo2R3BxxYwQR04NTOhkKOF3qHe1Q@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Hi Gert,<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM, G.
        Sikkema <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:sikkema@astro.rug.nl" target="_blank">sikkema@astro.rug.nl</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> hi Francesco, <br>
            <br>
            thanks for the analysis report on completeness for field
            KIDS_135_-1.5.<br>
            We are currently reprocessing the g,r,i tiles, to see if we
            can remove the satellite tracks.&nbsp;</div>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> However, the new
            satellite code has problems removing very faint satellite
            tracks (at ~2 times the nosie).<br>
          </div>
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        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div>OK, thanks for the update.</div>
        </div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> So in my opinion, it
            would be good to set the detection threshold at least to 2
            and min_area at 5.<br>
            Could you also send the source distribution plots (i.e.:
            CONTAMINATION_xy_min3_thre2.0.jpg ) for the following
            configurations?:<br>
            min_area=5 &amp; detect_thresh=2.5<br>
            min_area=5 &amp; detect_thresh=2.0<br>
            min_area=3 &amp; detect_thresh=2.5<br>
            <br>
            And from what band was your source distrubtion plot derived?<br>
          </div>
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        </div>
        <div>Pls, find attached here the requested plots. I included all
          four cases (min_area=3 and threshold=2.0), as I redid</div>
        <div>the plots with a different color coding:</div>
        <div>black -&gt; all contaminants in the selected region</div>
        <div>red &nbsp; &nbsp; -&gt; contaminants with S-Ex FLAGS=0</div>
        <div>&nbsp;blue &nbsp;-&gt; contaminants with S-Ex FLAGS between 1 and 3
          (i.e. deblended sources, and/or objects contaminated by close
          neighbors)</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Also, all these plots refer to r band, as reported in the
          new filenames.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div>Francesco</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div><br>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">GS
            <div>
              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On 02/05/2013 12:51 PM, Francesco La Barbera wrote: </div>
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                <div class="h5">Dear All,<br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>we performed a more detailed study of
                      completeness/contamination of our KIDS catalogs by
                      comparing</div>
                    <div>KIDS vs. CFHT photometry in the field of
                      KIDS_135_-1.5.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Here it's the steps we followed:</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>1) We downloaded the last version of the
                      images, that &nbsp; shouldn't be &nbsp; affected</div>
                    <div>by the satellite track issue we found in the
                      previous version of the coadd's.</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;</div>
                    <div>1) We ran KIDSCAT on the r-band images, with 6
                      different setups, changing DETECTION_MINAREA</div>
                    <div>and DETECTION_THRESHOLD in the S-Ex
                      .configuration file. We considered:</div>
                    <div>MINAREA: 3, 5</div>
                    <div>THRESHOLD: 1.5, 2.0, 2.5</div>
                    <div>Besides that, we also ran KIDSCAT on the g and
                      i band images with MINAREA=3, and THRESHOLD=2.0,
                      2.5</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>2) The catalogs were matched to the CFHT ones
                      (pls ask Mario for details)</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>3) The first attached plot,
                      CFHT_KIDS_....._THRESHOLD.jpg, summarizes the
                      completeness/contamination with different setups
                      for the r-band coadd.</div>
                    <div>Top and bottom panels correspond to MINAREA=3
                      and 5, respectively.</div>
                    <div>For each panel, the solid curves plot the
                      fraction of spurious sources (i.e. objects with no
                      matching to CFHT)</div>
                    <div>as a function of magnitude. We considered
                      magnitudes in the same aperture of 5'' in both
                      catalogs (KIDS and CFHT).</div>
                    <div>Curves with different colors correspond to
                      different DETECTION_THRESHOLDs as labeled.</div>
                    <div>The completeness mags, for each THRESHOLD value
                      (i.e. color), are marked with a vertical dashed
                      line.</div>
                    <div>(Here completeness is defined as the mag value
                      where CFHT counts keep increasing, while KIDS
                      counts remain constant/decrease).</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>4) The second attached plot shows the spatial
                      distribution of spurious sources in the area
                      "previously" affected by the satellite track.&nbsp;</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>5) We would conclude as follows:</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;A) for THRESHOLD=1.5 contamination increases
                      significantly, up to ~20-22% around the
                      completeness mag</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;B) completeness improves by ~0.15-0.2mag when
                      moving from THRESHOLD 2.5 to 2.0, and by the same
                      amount from 2.0 to 1.5.</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;C) changing MINAREA to 5 we get slightly lower
                      completeness (by~0.1-0.15mag), and slightly lower
                      contamination (by a few percent)</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;D) the satellite track issue is still there</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Depending on what is the maximum level of
                      contamination we can allow in the catalogs, we
                      think we might adopt either THRESHOLD=2.5 (current
                      value)</div>
                    <div>or THRESHOLD=2.0, as in the latter value we get
                      slightly better completeness, at the price of a
                      bit worst contamination.&nbsp;</div>
                    <div>Notice that the contamination fractions are
                      indeed upper limits (see our previous email on the
                      subject), as there are many sources</div>
                    <div>not present in the CFHT catalogs &nbsp;because of
                      (e.g.) deblending issues.&nbsp;</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Finally, the last attached plot,
                      &nbsp;&nbsp;CFHT_KIDS_COMPLETENESS_CONTAMINATION_THRESHOLD_g_i_bands.jpg,
                      shows completeness and contamination</div>
                    <div>for g band (upper panel) and i band (lower
                      panel), both for MINAREA=3. Resuts are similar to
                      those for r band. &nbsp;</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Eagerly waiting for your feedback, so that we
                      can finalize the S-Ex configuration file.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Cheers,</div>
                    <div>Francesco, Nicola, Mario</div>
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